I am normally the last guy in theworld to criticize somebody for using big words, but, besides that you'renot bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using themserves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very. Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice? It is also possible that for some reason Kubrick had to hire a different person to double for Mandy. Same voice. I never siad Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when we study it. Yes, the uncertainty about the identities of the women is Structuralto the film's splintered narrative. (4) With many people using Google maps-gps/satellite views scouring the earth, his Fortress of Solitude could be exposed. Lets look at the basic plot of this film. ANSWER. And of course how did > the mask get on his pillow? A part-time hobby soon blossomed into a career when he discovered he really loved writing about movies, TV and video games; he even (arguably) had a little bit of talent for it. We need some upstart director and SK devotee who can channel SK, to Make EWS part 2. orpsychotherapists. ">> "I saw her body in the morgue. Its common sense he was referring to Somerton as the party. Statanic mass?>, > <<<<<<<<< was wrestling with whether his buddy Zeigler and all those at the "party," > were killers. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. Please either stop > or> shape up. However, as we might imagine, there were many who believed his death was far from natural. Whereas atSomerton, Ziegler and the others only first become suspicious of Billas an interloper because of how he arrived there (in a taxi ratherthan a limousine). The movie is based on the 1920's novella Dream Storyand Kubrick developed the project for decades, and once considered a slightly more comedic take with Steve Martin in the lead role. Padraig has been writing about film online since 2012, when a friend asked if he'd like to contribute the occasional review or feature to their site. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing. Changes within the building seem to lack that phone booth sense of urgency and drama. I enjoy the > mystery entirely and will return to it over and over and could watch the > film again and again.>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequently> send a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? This is Eyes Wide Shut revisited. Eyes Wide Shut: What The Mask On The Pillow Means, Every Stanley Kubrick Movie Ranked, Worst To Best, The Shining: Why Stanley Kubrick Changed Stephen King's Story, Why Pirates of the Caribbean Producer Wants Johnny Depp Back, Chris Pratt Joins Luigi Actor To Troll Super Mario Bros. Movie Voice Critics. -Herodotus, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, I thought the woman who ODd at the dance party (Mandy), the woman who, Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - I don't care to look up her name, Here is a youtube video of "Mandy" (Julienne Davis), singing in her band, I sent a message to the YouTube person who hosted those "Mandy" videos if. WebDirected by Stanley Kubrick Writing Credits Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Produced by Music by Jocelyn Pook Cinematography by Larry Smith (lighting > Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in a> depressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethal> drug overdose. Somerton could hardly be >> >>>>>> described (and>, >> certainly not by Bill) as a 'party.'<<<<<<<<<<<. The lower part is made of paper-mache, while the upper one >Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. And why should anyone acceptanything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman(or women) as "a hooker. The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply > following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,> ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots from> from its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface. WebIn Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut, the protagonist Bill arrives at a secret party/orgy: Shortly after arriving, he is warned by a masked woman to leave ASAP. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing >> this," Mandy says, "Ya." I think this feeling of guilt and outrage at a murder, would be the first thing on his mind. --alt.flame Special Forces"All successful software gets changed." In the bathroom scene, there is no way to tell if Mandy has that freckle, because of her slouched position, which also makes it hard to tell her height in relation to Bill. we talked about this about 8 years ago on this newsgroup . If we try > to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries and > much conjecture. > People often don't make definitive connections between things at the > moment. >>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>wearingmasks? WebSynopsis. So if instead, he replayed Alice's voice (or Ziegler's voice) thiswould 'prove' that the body was that of Alice (or Ziegler)? at the > ceremony/orgy. I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. >> >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? That is what she was" implying that her deathis of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Zieglerchooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by theZieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by hisdesire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" > Mandy was not the same woman. The official cause of death was from a heart attack. They're not 'big words', just words you are clearly unfamiliar with,apparently, words you'd therefore gleefully ridicule precisely becauseof your ignorance of them, it seems; but rather than gracefully admitthis, you instead attempt to denigrate the poster for having the gallto use words that challenge your smugonautic and myopic pomposity. Bill is still even denying he knows what Zeigler > is talking about till Zeigler says "I was there at the house. No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" It is odd that Bill would remember his patient he hadn't seen in at least a year, owned "Rainbow Fashions?" If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing this," Mandy says, "Ya." Indeed, he appearsthoroughly confused: later with Ziegler in the poolroom, he asks, "thewoman at the party is the woman lying dead in the morgue." The rhizomatic uncertainties anduncanny inconsistencies multiply And it is not immediately clearwhether Bill connects this Amanda to the masked woman at Somerton orto the overdosed Mandy in Ziegler's bathroom. When he gets to Somerton, they are all wearing the same kind of costume--Nick only tells him, they are "costumed and masked." The film revolves around the tension between these twophenomena; it is about this tension): 1. desiring Amanda Curran to bethe Mandy from Ziegler's party would confirm his guilt - in hisprofessional capacity as a doctor attending a patient in need - aboutleaving her fate in the hands of Ziegler, serving power rather thanmorality or medical ethics, a guilt he now seeks to redress byimmediately going to visit Amanda/Mandy at the hospital to try andredeem himself; and 2. desiring Amanda to be the masked woman, a womanwho seemingly redeems Bill's Somerton-crashing guilt for him via theSomerton 'charade.'. One intriguing reading of the Eyes Wide Shutmask being on the pillow is that it's only in Bill's head as if he's exhausted by trying to hide his attempts at infidelity or true feelings from Alice, leading to an emotional breakdown. The lost of public phones booths will kill off Superman, Dr. Who, and Colin Farrell roles. On Feb 26, 3:27 pm, "Avoid normal situations. Can it really compete with Rupert? They paid off the desk cleark to tell Bill, that Nick was being roughed up, or perhaps the clerk is one of those men dancing with men at the ceremony/orgy and in fact Mandy, although on the slab was not really dead. You're coming across as yet another FUCKING TROLL!! >>>>>>>>If this were really thecase, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to themasked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. 0. Eyes Wide Shut is a 1999 erotic mystery psychological drama film directed, produced and co-written by Stanley Kubrick. WebEyes Wide Shut Flat Mask By NomadMessenger From $8.79 Wide Awake during 2020, by Haus of Butterfly Flat Mask By hausofbutterfly From $10.99 Eyes Wide Shut Flat Mask By ArjunVile From $10.99 Colorful watercolor ink splash woman portrait Flat Mask By Misschemical From $9.16 Colorful watercolor ink splash woman portrait Flat Mask By <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. So is Ziegler lying? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using > them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. >>What else could he call it? and she > replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," > Mandy says, "I know." People were dancing, there was music wearing costumes, and although > it was strange, calling it a "party," would not be unusual in the > slightest. at the> ceremony/orgy. Is that how youwould describe it? Web .
1925 . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AzOnnrAlE8, http://www.celebsvideoarchive.com/videos/Julienne%20Davis/index.html, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvNO0BfBecc. Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - Julienne Davis. But then again when Superman puts on a pair of plain eyeglassesLois Lane, or anyone else fails to recognize him as Clark Kent! What a mish mash of mentalmasturbation that is..", " Psycho-semi-freudian-lacanisn-junkie-marxist babbling. But maybe he's just practicing forhis Boddhisatva qualification tests.- you know, the 'enlightening thegreat unwashed masses' thing. > Simply because we don't really know the extent of the "charade," from the > Illuminatii/Secret government etc, OR what SK really had in mind---to blow > our mind. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually know> about Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask > <<<<<<<<<<<<. >Even in the morgue he still might not have> been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the> body. It's not like he is going to voice all his thoughts. WebEyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubricks love letter to his wife. What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. And coming from the newsgroup'sresident acid-headed, solipsistic zombie. WebEyes Wide Shut Mask Woman - Etsy Browse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask woman and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a - Ziegler> wasn't concerned about her health, just eager to get rid of her so as> to avoid any potential social embarrassment, "Bill, this is just> between us").>>> What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning the> identities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),> sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps and> deadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just like> Ziegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' of> events. The twenty-something woman confirmed she and her partner Leonard are polyamorous. When Bill thinks hes just about to score his own sexual liaison, his charade is exposed. From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Billhas been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-vis Mandy and the masked woman. It's a kind of dissassociation from reality, and an obsessive flight of ideas, into endless, words and meta-words. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, etc. While Polanski is the master ofparanoia, The Ninth Gate had too many things wrong with it. In a case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his mind, but he was kinda busy. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? <<<<<<<<<<<. The film centers on a profoundly unsatisfied couple tied together not by pure love, but by social convenience and appearances. ), Stalepie writes:"the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. People were dancing, there was music wearing costumes, and although it was strange, calling it a "party," would not be unusual in the slightest. "The ng will die when there are no longer any participants. -----Richard Schultz sch@mail.biu.ac.ilDepartment of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, IsraelOpinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University-----"It would have been like discussing sundials with a bat. But examine the frame showing the overhead shot in the morgue, with all the shots of Mandy in the bathroom. <<<<<<<<<<. He did not know who she was: she was wearinga mask. I trhink Steven Lizberger is right. andpleading with her to take off her mask? "you are going to need some rehab," she says, >> "I know.">. Congratulations. And the Somerton ritual is alsoambiguous; how, or rather why, for instance, does the masked womanupon first meeting the masked Bill, assert with such certainty that"You shouldn't be here", then followed by repeated warnings that hiscontinued presence at the ritual will get him in trouble? Even though much was 'cleared" up there are still major mysteries here that unless they are encoded in single frames for analyssis will alwasy be a mystery. >>>>>>>>>> And why should anyone acceptanything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman(or women) as "a hooker. Does anyone else sense the inspiration of the mask designs from the film Eyes Wide Shut? AmericanCinematographer did some thing on the lighting or something in thismovie when it came out, but David Mullen who used to post here (whenthis place was even worse) could answer like anything. People often don't make definitive connections between things at the moment. ---people with no idea of the futility and silliness of counting endless grains of sands, with their mental masturbations and perserverations. Weve got a beautiful feminine version of the lead mask that features a baroque pattern and crystal embellishments, as well as a feathered mask similar to the When Bill asks what, she simply responds, "Fuck." Eyes Wide Shut developed after Stanley Kubrick read Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story in 1968, when Kubrick was looking for a project to follow 2001: A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was interested in adapting the story, and with the help of journalist Jay Cocks, bought the filming rights to the novel. 20 years ago today, the final masterpiece from the late, great Stanley Kubrick arrived in theaters. <<<<<<<<, > In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, > subliminally. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, -- Dennis/Endyhttp://home.comcast.net/~endymion91/~I was born to rock the boat. Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the body. The point, however, is that even if all three female'characters' are the same woman (and so, effectively, the samecharacter), this serves to set up even more contradictions, not tomention buying in to Ziegler's warped, patriarchal world. at the ceremony/orgy. ANSWERS: 4. The second half of Eyes Wide Shut sees Bill being given ominous warnings from this secret society, and he can't seem to find his mask from the party. 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1925 . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AzOnnrAlE8, http://www.celebsvideoarchive.com/videos/Julienne%20Davis/index.html, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvNO0BfBecc. Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - Julienne Davis. But then again when Superman puts on a pair of plain eyeglassesLois Lane, or anyone else fails to recognize him as Clark Kent! What a mish mash of mentalmasturbation that is..", " Psycho-semi-freudian-lacanisn-junkie-marxist babbling. But maybe he's just practicing forhis Boddhisatva qualification tests.- you know, the 'enlightening thegreat unwashed masses' thing. > Simply because we don't really know the extent of the "charade," from the > Illuminatii/Secret government etc, OR what SK really had in mind---to blow > our mind. Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually know> about Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask > <<<<<<<<<<<<. >Even in the morgue he still might not have> been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the> body. It's not like he is going to voice all his thoughts. WebEyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubricks love letter to his wife. What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. And coming from the newsgroup'sresident acid-headed, solipsistic zombie. WebEyes Wide Shut Mask Woman - Etsy Browse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask woman and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a - Ziegler> wasn't concerned about her health, just eager to get rid of her so as> to avoid any potential social embarrassment, "Bill, this is just> between us").>>> What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning the> identities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),> sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps and> deadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just like> Ziegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' of> events. The twenty-something woman confirmed she and her partner Leonard are polyamorous. When Bill thinks hes just about to score his own sexual liaison, his charade is exposed. From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Billhas been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-vis Mandy and the masked woman. It's a kind of dissassociation from reality, and an obsessive flight of ideas, into endless, words and meta-words. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, etc. While Polanski is the master ofparanoia, The Ninth Gate had too many things wrong with it. In a case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his mind, but he was kinda busy. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? <<<<<<<<<<<. The film centers on a profoundly unsatisfied couple tied together not by pure love, but by social convenience and appearances. ), Stalepie writes:"the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. People were dancing, there was music wearing costumes, and although it was strange, calling it a "party," would not be unusual in the slightest. "The ng will die when there are no longer any participants. -----Richard Schultz sch@mail.biu.ac.ilDepartment of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, IsraelOpinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University-----"It would have been like discussing sundials with a bat. But examine the frame showing the overhead shot in the morgue, with all the shots of Mandy in the bathroom. <<<<<<<<<<. He did not know who she was: she was wearinga mask. I trhink Steven Lizberger is right. andpleading with her to take off her mask? "you are going to need some rehab," she says, >> "I know.">. Congratulations. And the Somerton ritual is alsoambiguous; how, or rather why, for instance, does the masked womanupon first meeting the masked Bill, assert with such certainty that"You shouldn't be here", then followed by repeated warnings that hiscontinued presence at the ritual will get him in trouble? Even though much was 'cleared" up there are still major mysteries here that unless they are encoded in single frames for analyssis will alwasy be a mystery. >>>>>>>>>> And why should anyone acceptanything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman(or women) as "a hooker. Does anyone else sense the inspiration of the mask designs from the film Eyes Wide Shut? AmericanCinematographer did some thing on the lighting or something in thismovie when it came out, but David Mullen who used to post here (whenthis place was even worse) could answer like anything. People often don't make definitive connections between things at the moment. ---people with no idea of the futility and silliness of counting endless grains of sands, with their mental masturbations and perserverations. Weve got a beautiful feminine version of the lead mask that features a baroque pattern and crystal embellishments, as well as a feathered mask similar to the When Bill asks what, she simply responds, "Fuck." Eyes Wide Shut developed after Stanley Kubrick read Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story in 1968, when Kubrick was looking for a project to follow 2001: A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was interested in adapting the story, and with the help of journalist Jay Cocks, bought the filming rights to the novel. 20 years ago today, the final masterpiece from the late, great Stanley Kubrick arrived in theaters. <<<<<<<<, > In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, > subliminally. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, -- Dennis/Endyhttp://home.comcast.net/~endymion91/~I was born to rock the boat. Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the body. The point, however, is that even if all three female'characters' are the same woman (and so, effectively, the samecharacter), this serves to set up even more contradictions, not tomention buying in to Ziegler's warped, patriarchal world. at the ceremony/orgy. ANSWERS: 4. The second half of Eyes Wide Shut sees Bill being given ominous warnings from this secret society, and he can't seem to find his mask from the party. 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